This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. Another vote for something different.The 358 STA would be the one. in an 8.5 pound rifle, is comparable to the much more popular but less effective (on CXP3 class game) .300 Weatherby or .300 Remington Ultra Magnums. 358 norma mag is a rarer bird but as I understand fire forming 300 win mag brass an easy way to feed it. Honestly, the concept of being overgunned is somewhat mystifying to me, provided you can place the shot. Most ammunition makers have a 200-grain load, and Remington also has a 150-grain load with a muzzle velocity of 2300 f.p.s. has been offered in just about every rifle action type ever conceived and a few handguns. Thats the primary game for many of us, but one size doesnt fit all. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. For more specialized uses, Speer makes a 180-grain flatpoint (semispitzer)that, with reduced loads, turns the .358 Norma Magnum into a pussycat for recoil but is easily capable of handling game such as black bears and white-tailed deer out to 250 yards or so. All rights reserved. Blocker Outdoors Finisher gloves, headcovers and other accessories are available in Mossy Oak Bottomland and Mossy Oak Obsession NWTF camouflage patterns to match various turkey hunting terrain. I am convinced there are better tools, and theres also that matter of mindset. The Whelen is a more sensible choice, but the Rigby isnt about sensibility, its about nostalgia and a connection to a bygone age. pushes a 200-grain bullet to just more than 2000 f.p.s. Is there a way to find out what year it is by serial #? Everybody agrees that the .358 Win. 358 norma mag is a rarer bird but as I understand fire forming 300 win mag. As well, most bullet manufacturers produce soft, 200-grain roundnosed bullets intended for the .35 Remington, and these fit a wide range of uses. lbs. Bertram Brass from Australia is a good source when you can get it, and Quality Cartridge makes a run of .350 Rigby every few years, but you could be waiting a considerable amount of time. The .358 Norma Mag. While I generally prefer the former over the latter, I think that both choices are effective. A 358Norma is a good fit for this action. Since lack of a gas seal in a low-pressure load is more of a nuisance than a danger, it can be ignored if you dont mind the soot. We owe a debt of gratitude to the engineers at the British firm of Holland & Holland; though it is lost to history who exactly designed the belted magnum cartridge, the .275 and .375 Holland & Holland Magnums were game changers. The experimentation with the H&H cases, first by Weatherby and later by Winchester and Remington, certainly changed the way we hunted and made our purchases; magnum mania definitely took root. In many areas a 100-pound deer might be normal, but mule deer and whitetail bucks exist that are triple that size. In 1968 the 600 Magnum was replaced by the Model 660 Magnum, which featured a 20-inch barrel, but it was never a big seller, and Remington dropped the rifles. Most Professional Hunters agree that a bullet with a S.D. Heeding the advice of American friends, Kvale worked on what would become the .358 Norma Magnum. Its a flat shootermimicking the trajectory of a .30-06 with heavier bulletsand is fully capable as an all-around choice. I say that because so many reasonably successful yet hard kicking cartridges have been introduced in the last few years. Mag. All in, it weighed over 11 pounds, which is too heavy. Normas original spec sheet for the .358 Norma Magnum when it was released in 1959 indicated the cartridges ballistics. crying, My kingdom for a rifle.. X-Vision Optics long-range ImpactThermal Scope (TS300) boasts a 640 x 480 thermal sensor that can detect big game well past 3,000 yards. I wont be ashamed to take it elk hunting, but today Im certain that level of power is not essential. It is, as you say, a thumper. THe 35 whelen did have a little more power than the 358. Norma Projektilfabrik answered Winchesters designs with a pair of their own: the .308 Norma Magnum and its slightly older brother, the .358 Norma Magnum. Shaw rifle's 24-inch barrel.. I think Jack OConnor, the great champion of the .270, would agree. Then come the .30s, and now were talking business. Quite a difference! Oklahoma. I took it to Texas in 1989 and decked a nilgai at about 90 yards. Maybe it's a regular BDL? The .35 Rem. He never questioned the adequacy of his .270 for elk, nor do I, but he was also a lifelong .30-06 fan and privately conceded its superiority for elk-sized game. The .358 Norma Mag. The big issue with the .350 Rigby Magnum is the lack of available ammunition. I had the privilege of spending some time with a 1917 vintage take-down Rigby-Mauser rifle while on a hunt in Scotland, and the words sweet shooting came quickly to mind. Have all three, and have not shot any of em My medium is a 9,3x62. Ive seen many elk taken cleanly with a .270 Winchester, and my own longest shot on an elk was on a big New Mexico bull at 400 yards using a .270 Winchester with a 150-grain Nosler Partitionone step and down. Well, it betters the velocity of the .35 Whelen by at least 200 fps, much the same as the .338 Winchester Magnum does to the .338-06. Got a nice .270 Win MTN Rifle donor 700. These were, primarily, the Schultz & Larsen (Denmark), the Husqvarna (Sweden) and a few Browning High Powers made by FN in Belgium. The fortunate few who own them want to keep them, and these are the core admirers who make it worth Normas while to continue offering brass and loaded ammunition. But when Winchester chambered the .358 the following year in its unique lever-action, the Model 88, it became a really interesting cartridge. This new model featured two new cartridges, the .350 Rem. Moving down a notch and comparing the .35 Whelen (250 grain bullet at a MV of 2400 fps) to the .30-06 (220 grains at 2410 fps), which have nearly identical case capacity, we find that the optimum game range (OGW) on 1000 pound animals is 10 yards for the .30-06 and 100 yards for the .35 Whelen. Mag. It arrived with three other cartridges designed to compete with Winchesters popular lever-action lineup. Of them all the one I still have is the 9,3X62. Right now, I think that the Browning BLR lever-action rifle is the only production gun left on the market in .358 Win. The .45-70 is another very popular cartridge. All Rights Reserved. of muzzle energy. The big case certainly made its reputation with the 250-grain bullets, as their sectional density gives excellent penetration on even the heavy-boned animals, and the .358 Norma can push them to a muzzle velocity of 2750 fps. With the best loads, my Remington Model 700 is one-hole accurate. Kevin Steele of Petersen's HUNTING is at the Streamlight booth at SHOT Show 2023 to go over the Bear Trap light from Streamlight. The cartridge predates the more famous .416 by three years, and the .350 Rigby was the first to feature the sharp 45-degree shoulder which is the hallmark of the Rigby designs. Throw a belt on the .35 Newton and you couldnt tell the difference three feet away. [/quote]. It shoots well and is light and easy to carry while hunting. Don't like Rugers much had my fill of them and now they are gone down the road. I am not into the current long-range fad, especially on powerful animals like elk. To return to our boxing analogy, the .358 Norma Magnum not only has the Hammer of Thor, but it also offers an excellent jab, a good hook, a wicked uppercut and a variety of feints. Any listing you find for H-4895 can be modified by loading only 60 percent of the published minimum to create some very comfortable loads. It also notes that the reconstituted Schultz & Larsen company is offering the chambering in its Model 97 takedown rifle. Although such weight is rare, a big bull can exceed 1,000 pounds. of muzzle energy. But in my experience, if you can cover that 300-yard window with confidence youre in good shape. I am also looking at building a 358 Norma Mag on a model 110 Savage action, formerly a 300 Win mag, and start from scratch with the stock ( bedding and pillar) and make it a tolerable shooter even if a bit heavy. It is a good choice for shooters who are very sensitive to recoil, since its free recoil energy is only about 4.5 ft. lbs. The long accepted story was that James V. Howe developed the cartridge in 1922 and named it in honor of his friend, gunwriter Col. Townsend Whelen. With its spitzer-pointed bullets, the .358 is a good medium- to long-range cartridge with capabilities out to 250 yards on big game. In any mass-production rifle, either the .375 or .338, or both, will be found as a standard chambering. Meanwhile, the .358 Norma fizzled, for lack of a better term, because rifles were not readily available, ammunition was expensive and hard to get, and it found itself in direct competition with one of the great American cartridges of the twentieth century, Winchesters .338 Magnum. As it stands, it is most certainly on the edge of becoming obsolete. I would never argue that a .243 Winchester with a good bullet placed well, or certainly a .25-06 with a tough, heavy bullet, cant do the job. Perhaps thats how it should be, the masses rarely embrace true greatness. A medium variable in the 3-9X or 2.5-10X range should be enough scope for elk hunting. There are several reasons. The trouble is, they didnt sell. On a 600 pound animal like a big bull elk the optimum game range of the .308 (180 grain bullet at a MV of 2610 fps) is a useful 175 yards. I was used to the 30-06 parent cases (.270, 25-06, etc) so that is what I decided on. As it turned out, having a great punch was not enough for either one. If the .350 Rigby Magnum was effective in the golden era of safari, modern premium bullet designs will make it even better. Here in North America, you could take the .350 Rigby anywhere youd take the .35 Whelen or .358 Norma Magnum, and that includes north to Alaska for the great bears. Copyright 2003, 2012 by Chuck Hawks. The .358 has 24 percent more energy at the muzzle than the .300 Win. Powders such as IMRs Trail Boss, Accurates 5744 and IMRs discontinued SR-4759 all work with lighter bullets, and sometimes accuracy is very good, even if the gas seal is not. There is only .007-inch (seven thousandths) difference between the .270s .277-inch bullet and the 7mms .284-inch bullet. Thier wouldn't be any action mods required to do the Whelen,just rebarrel and enjoy. up to 0.358 inches and dubbed it the poor mans magnum.. He, too, could have been one of the greats. The major problem with light loads is getting enough pressure to provide a good gas seal. Synthetic wins over laminate because laminates, strongest of all, are also heaviest. Would be nice to have a 35 Wheelie, 350 Rem and a .358 Win. There are specialized situations where close shots are the norm, but most often, the ideal elk rifle should have enough versatility for shots out to 300 yards and change. At 300 yards, it has 19 percent more energy than the .300 Win. I will go with the 35 Whelen BUT 9.3x62 will be cool due that you already have a 350 Rem mag, if you're opening the bolt face the 358 STA better option than Norma and 338-06 could be a nice choice too. Not only that, many different bullet moulds were made for casting .358 bullets in some of the most fanciful shapes. Somehow, years ago, I got the notion that it is not prudent to be opening the bolt face of a 700 from standard (270W) to magnum (358N). When chambered for cartridges such as the .243 Win., 6 mm Rem., .308 Win. Though still under construction, Im eager to take the classic cartridge into the hunting fields. Both calibers share the same dimensions of the case head as the .300 H&H Magnum, but have far less body taper, resulting in the same internal capacity in a shorter case. Pet Loads and Handloader are registered trademarks of Wolfe Publishing Company. The original Schultz & Larsens were sold without iron sights, and they were installed on my rifle afterward. But there is no compelling reason to consider a caliber larger than .35. Not so the .358 Norma. Layne Simpson did an article on the comparison of the two and it was reprinted in Big Bore Rifles and Cartridge ISBN 1-879356-00-7. Sadly, my favorite bullet diameter, the .35 caliber, doesnt even rate a blip on the American shooters radar screen. Alas, to the best of my knowledge, its not imported to the U.S. The bullet was the then-new Trophy Bonded 250-grain Bear Claw. You bet they worked! The .350 can drive a 250 grain bullet to a MV of 2500 fps. necked up to .35 caliber. Mag. bruce. Many western hunters annually take elk with 6mms and .25s. Why the .35 Rem. Essentially a .338 Magnum with a bigger mouth, the .358 Norma can push 250-grain bullets faster. And Barnes makes a 200-grain TSX bullet designed for this cartridge that, when handloaded to 2850 f.p.s., allows the .350 Rem. I have used this cartridge on moose with excellent results. Of course, it took the .338 Winchester Magnum many years to catch on, and it took the .243/6mm cartridges over a half century after the introduction of the 6mm Lee Navy cartridge to gain popular acceptance, so perhaps there is still hope for the .35's. Its a great gun for moose and elk, bear and boar, and for bison as well. For the next year, comparisons were inevitable between Johanssons Hammer of Thor and the .358s powerful 250-grain bullet. I think it would be cheeper to get another action or a magnum bolt. The .358 Norma Magnum, like the .358 Shooting Times Alaskan, generates a considerable amount of energy, but due to the caliber restrictions for dangerous game of most of the African countries, it falls shy of the markthe .375-inch bore is minimum for many countries. On the other hand, you must hit it well, because if poorly hit, an elk shows strength and stamina and may cover many miles of tough country. Cartridges of .25 caliber and below are not ideal elk cartridges, especially if a big bull is a potential. My .375 H&H seemed quite adequate. Thanks for any thoughts. My 35 Whelen will run 250gr partitions at 2700 fps with power pro 2000 powder. The .35 Whelen is a fine elk cartridge. What keeps it alive? Whelen would not. It will work in this action with ease and will be plenty cheap to feed and use if one simply sizes up 338 brass and goes along thier happy way. .50 BMG. Here the elk offers hunters an advantage because the vital zone, like body size, is at least twice that of any deer. I will go with the 35 Whelen BUT 9.3x62 will be cool due that you already have a 350 Rem mag, if you're opening the bolt face the 358 STA better option than Norma and 338-06 could be a nice choice too. There is certainly no lack of .358-inch diameter bullets to choose from but brass is limited. it is one nice gun and made for tight places. The .358 Norma Magnum is a rifle cartridge introduced in 1959 by Norma. An earlier Western Cartridge load delivered 2,660 fps, which I suspect is closer to the truth. So if you have a .375 (or larger) and a yen to take it elk hunting, be my guest. of muzzle energy. Its also worth noting that, in spite of its relative obscurity, the cartridge appears in many of the most recent loading manuals, including Normas own, a worthwhile addition to anyones reloading library. was initially chambered in Remingtons Model 8 autoloader, soon followed by the Model 14 pump-action. Norma offers factory ammunition, E.R. I'd go with the 35 whelen. During the spring conservation order, you can hunt with outfitters from Arkansas to Saskatchewan. I own several rifles in this cartridge and all my .35 Whelen rifles are accurate. R Rocky Of the three, only the .358 Norma has not become a standard chambering. The .270 WSM and .270 Weatherby deliver more energy, but all three are fine. The cartridge is closely related to the .308 Norma Magnum. The .358 Norma established its reputation in high-end hunting rifles like this Schultz & Larsen Model 65DL. and a 250-grain Partition load with a muzzle velocity of 2550 f.p.s. So, I've hunted elk with less ambitious rounds. Kevin Steele from Petersen's HUNTING speaks to Jordan Egli of Burris Optics about the all-new Veracity PH Riflescope. Contributor Brad Fenson takes to the grill, to cook up some delicious venison burgers. I have no experience with the Norma mag. The hunter from afar, journeying into unfamiliar country, must also accept the pressure of a limited period of time and the knowledge that it may come down to just one chance. The .338-inch fans cite the advantage of the higher sectional density figures, while the .358-inch camp favors the better frontal diameter of the larger bore. That being said, with much wider availability, and the higher . The .318 Westley Richards was a highly popular choice at that time, and it drives a 250-grain bullet of .330-inch diameter, with a SD of 0.328, and the .375 Holland & Holland uses a 300-grain bullet of nominal diameter with a SD of 0.305; both are renowned for their penetration. The ammunition situation is a little better than the rifles. Out of stock View Details . Publisher of Petersen's HUNTING magazine, Kevin Steele is at the Steiner Optics booth with Alberto Corbetta to discuss the Predator 4 and Predator 8. Sure, we experiment a bit with other bore sizes, but in the end it always comes back to the .30 caliber. and the 6.5 mm Rem. Also, many of these hunters have the luxury of a long season close to home. In the shooting sports we call that reaction recoil or "kick." As a result of all this activity, .358-inch diameter jacketed rifle bullets are available in a wide range of weights and styles, from 150-grain semipointed to 200- grain roundnose, all the way up to 310 grains for the heaviest game. I rely on Roberson Cartridge Company out of Texas for projects like these, and their .350 Rigby brass is wonderfully uniform and properly headstamped. is still not burning up the sales records, so maybe ahead of its time is the wrong description. Among the .35 caliber cartridges popular in the United States, the .358 offered a definite step up in performance; the .35 Remingtonthat popular woods rifleis much slower than the .358, and though the .35 Whelen has been among us since 1922, it would remain a wildcat until 1988. It was verry expensive to shoot, lots of powder and expensive bullets and brass. and is a good cartridge for hunting the thick woods for deer, hogs, black bear or even elk. There are places where .22 centerfires are legal for elk. X-Vision Optics long-range ImpactThermal Scope (TS300) boasts a 640 x 480 thermal sensor that can detect big game well past 3,000 yards. It put an exclamation point on that lung shot. The .308 Winchester is a fine elk cartridge, and the grand old .30-06, with a bit more velocity and energy, is better. Theres more to success than merely landing a good one on the chin. Shaw rifles 24-inch barrel. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Bertram Brass from Australia is a good source when you can get it, and Quality Cartridge makes a run of .350 Rigby every few years, but you could be waiting a considerable amount of time. Its said that the French used it in World War I, but it probably didnt see much action. The first time I ever hunted with a .358 Norma Magnum, it was a custom rifle built on a Mauser Mark X action. is on the threatened list, this one is on a path to extinction. Faster 6.5sthe new 6.5 PRC, the old .264, or the super-fast .26 Nosler and 6.5-300 Weatherbywill deliver more energy and open the range envelope a bit. That load actually produced 2825 f.p.s. Follow along to see exactly how. You can start with the 6.5mms. As an experiment, I shot the nilgai five or six more times with different bullets, then hauled the carcass back to the cleaning station intact and carried out a necropsy. Kevin Steele, Publisher of Petersen's HUNTING talks with JJ Reich of HEVI-Shot about the new offerings for 2023. Short of a wounded elephant or Cape buffalo in thick cover, there is no game I can think of for which you could not concoct a load in the .358. As it was released in the first century of the . G. Joined: Sep 2009. The .358 Norma established its reputation in high-end hunting rifles like this Schultz & Larsen Model 65DL. Looks like I'll do a Whelen. The Norma factory load, with Normas own 250-grain bullet, performed poorly, coming apart in the chest cavity. As Ive said, I like mediums, such as the unpopular 8mm Remington Magnum and the faster .33s. An elk is bigger than anything most deer hunters have encountered, but theres still a variance; a cow for the freezer isnt much bigger than a very large deer, but a mature bull elk is different.
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