As youve pointed out Mr. X did this before the search party had even assembled, right at the EXACT parcel of land that the girls bodies would be found the next day. Thanks again for the interesting and jaw dropping article!!! Besides being psycho. I have one more message for you. Ronald Logan was never named a suspect, despite the warrant. If anyone else is involved they know who it is. The catfishing situation is not what we think. Theres no woman among them. It was all over by 3:30 sure takes a lot of the heat off of LE for calling off that search, amirite? Bob Matlock, owner of the now-closed Jessies Bar & Grill, said Richard Matthews Allen and his wife were regular customers, often talking about the murders of 14-year-old Liberty Libby German and 13-year-old in 2017. Robert Lindsay is the leader of a sleuthing group that presently has ~230 paid members. This just doesnt bode well for him, I mean ESPECIALLY if you consider that he asked to search the Logan property and came up empty-handed. Where his truck was parked was a five minute walk to the crime scene. The problem with this is that a searcher claims he searched the area where the girls were found the night of 2-13 and not only were the girls not there but none of the props were there either. That makes no sense. It was all over by 3:30 PM. I believe that came from the leaked DE texts, and I would really like to know if that has ever been confirmed by anyone in LE. You dont have LE sources. One thing I always have to remind myself of is that LE is allowed to lie to the public. Important facts released by family. They also think you get that way from your upbringing, especially with your father. Its $20. Yes, I think Mr. X did this crime. One daughter, estranged. Not sure if thats what this is about, but if so, Im not sold. Education history: Primary and junior high unknown. If so, where and when? These are the facts about the man LE suspects is BG. Libby's father, Derrick, makes them pancakes for breakfast. Guilty until proven innocent! There is evidence that may have worked at a Tyson packing plant in Logansport in 2011-2012. He lives in an ivory colored mobile looking home within the country. Start your Independent Premium subscription today. So every time a kid gets killed in a sexual murder, LE goes looking for photos and videos of the murder because obviously everyone who kills a kid takes pics of it and videotapes it. I am hoping this will possibly fit with somone elses knowledge and it will be helpful. I am running into one issue with Mr. X. I was wondering if there might be a different thought on this. BA, Journalism, Cal State University Long Beach, 1981. Thats a full 18 hours. But we have said many of the same things, which may be confirmation of my visions in a way. No one has to believe me when I say LE has a main suspect, but there are number of suspects that ought to be put to rest. Mr. Xs wife, his daughter, and Becky Patty are now putting out a story that Mr. X never lost his keys in the first place. 9) He has killed before. Four people are involved at least peripherally, BG and three others. I will kill again,' one note found in 1990 read. There is no doubt in my mind or anyone who is in possession of an IQ higher than double digit range that Ron Logan is not the killer. So I held off. Apparently claimed that he saw Mr. X in another town around the time of the murders. Another one of the videos had what Im assuming is a LinkedIn profile of some sort spliced into the slide show for a brief moment. If I were on the jury, the only thing I would care about was whether the state had proved that Mr. X committed this crime. This is why you dont hear LE openly accusing people of committing serious crimes like homicide unless they have enough evidence to take them to trial. Top 3 Legends of All Time in Soccer America, Top 3 legends of All Time in Hollywood in America, Top 4 Major Cities in America of All Time. Instead of bashing us, why dont you ask why the cops are telling us this stuff? The 50-year-old from Delphi was taken into custody on Friday and booked into Carroll County Jail. They were folded on her chest. This girl was refusing to get an abortion that he wanted her to get. There is a suspected child killer in the Bay Area who is responsible for 5-10 child murders. But no, that was not the case. Everything We Know About The Unsolved Delphi Murders. As CrimeOnline previously reported, 13-year-old Abby and 14-year-old Libby were murdered in 2017, but the killer remains elusive. I have joined the group on face book #Delphi Murders. He was also scared to join her group because I was in there and he was afraid of me. A large amount of blood was lost by the victims at the crime scene, an agent wrote in the warrant. Both of these people were probably ragers before, so its not like they did a U-turn. is that creepy guy still following us?. However, Mindtruth has done a number of episodes on our information and I thank Bruce for that very much. If the DA does not think he has enough evidence in a homicide case to win in court, they wont take it to trial. SoundCloud.com How to Submit Tips In Delphi Murders Case Watch on Then he needed 2-3 months of therapy to work through this traumatic experience. Youre not necessarily going to get that so much with a blunt type of weapon, Morgan said. Allen is a married pharmaceutical technician. Best of all, much of our information is via solid sources such as search party members, official case documents, and LE sources close to the investigation. Is there any meaning to these numbers or is he just playing sneaky, tricky games with us like these guys often do. Its all about the zero-sum game. Mr. X needed the lost his keys excuse to explain how he stayed in that spot for 18 hours. You do a great job! Found an interesting article regarding the act of stating and posing bodies. Henceforth, he will be known as LE Source A. One seems to be PNB and the other is RRB. I do not feel comfortable answering that question right now. I am 100% behind you. Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail "Abby" Williams. LE must know that BG recorded 43 seconds of audio, presumably of his crime. He had his keys with him, so why didnt he move his truck when they asked him to instead of lying and saying he couldnt because he had lost his keys? Two people appear to be conflated here in your article as Mr. X. Twice in the the Evansdale Murders, LE thought they were certain that they had the right man. Thats why all the smoke and mirrors. Delphi Murders Update May 29, 2021: Police Now Suspect That BG Also In the more than three years since the girls' tragic murders, very little evidence has been released about the case including the cause of death. Find these clothes, they will be what solves this! A lot of my comments have been deleted, not at my discretion. He was like a manager there or something, in Delphi!!! She was found in an ivory/white dress. Get real. Yes, this man is the prime suspect at the moment, but that doesnt mean a whole lot. By that I mean that he probably has offended many times but being transient affords one the luxury of not getting caught. The two men may have been working at the Tyson plant in Logansport, Indiana and may have been shipped to the sister Tyson plant in Waterloo, Iowa, where they were put up temporarily in motels for months at a time. Garrett explained that an "unspent bullet is one that has the casing and the projectile still together." He is happy to do so. Let me jump in here. They are most likely related to one another, but your description of Mr. X confuses the two. She still hasnt been able to process this, assuming such a thing can ever be processed. Kline is being held in jail after being arrested on separate child porn charges in 2020. Thats good enough for us to be probative. In the Delphi case, a signature could be very evident if both victims . No, they are obviously looking for photos and videos that the killer took as part of this crime. Libby had gotten smitten with this young man and wanted to meet him. He could offend today in say, Ohio and offend in Illinois and be in his journey back home to commit more offenses. BTW whats up with all the psychic stuff? It has been said there were dolls and stuffed animals around the girls. My understanding was that an FBI agent was visiting family in Delphi and assisted in the search when he heard about it (as it is a very small town, most people heard about the girls missing that night and the search the night they failed to return); FBI agent assists in search as essentially a volunteer, and when it becomes apparent by late night - early morning that there may be something more sinister than the girls simply getting lost, he assisted with request of local authorities (as is required unless it is w/in FBI jurisdiction, as this was not) with getting the FBI to the scene the next morning. This man deserves to be caught and get death penalty. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15568704. David, the person involved in the leaked text messages, claimed that the girls died from stabbing. If this did happen, then they wouldn't have been able to tell if Abby was posed. I cannot remember which girl had taken the photo of the man on the bridge with her cell phone, but I had read somewhere that on that cell phone there was audio of her saying something about a weird man approaching them and that is why she took the photo. Underwear, possible two pairs, was found in the river. Apparently there is a human need to wonder, guess, and posit. According to Leaker, this is correct. FSG has been someone that I cannot let go of either. Im also sure that its used as a tactic to convince the public that they were completely justified in making whatever decisions they felt required justification. Required fields are marked *. I also believe 1) that all of the dolls found there were not put there after the crime but that this was an area that the perpetrator visited often to perform some kind of sadistic acts using the dolls, 2) that he was at that site when he perhaps saw and/or used binoculars to spot the girls on the bridge, 3)went to the bridge and then took the girls to his sadistic-acts place to perform those acts on live persons. No ones been hurt by this case more than Becky Patty. So yeah, if you type in Mr Xs real govt registered name into the old YT, you get a handful of cryptic videos, slideshows with creepy music typical for this sort of thing. Also, I dont know what to make of this. Breathe so we can comment in between paragraphs pleaser. And when they said BG was actually better described as a combination of both sketches, they were correct too. Did he not see BG? He was right in the middle of all the police and media, and no one suspected him. Anything that shows they crossed the creek that evening. Delphi murders: Killer staged bodies and may have taken souvenir, new documents reveal Shocking new details have come to light about the murders of best friends Libby German, 14, and Abby. I am not revealing the name of the main suspect here and will only refer to him as Mr. X. I also request all commenters to also refer to him as Mr. X. I do this as a simple measure to try to protect his identity. I believe Mr. X is the guy. And he never meets anyone for any reason. Photo: Courtesy Mike and Becky Patty. No one else reacted that way. Because statistically, the chance that it is a crazy serial killer would be smaller. If they were killed right away, its no problem, but if they were not killed until 12 hours later, its one more thing that makes no sense. The state has to prove it. The sigs are from the FBI and a court official. I thought nobody looked like the BG in the actual video than PB (especially compared to that FB image with a deer)But now, not a chanceKirts fits that mofo better than allIts in the cheeks, the spit, etcThe cops have known for a while its him too I think. That is the exact location whereLibby German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, filmed an unidentified man approaching them on the day of their February 2017 deaths. This was a sex crime, a sex homicide. Despite mention of a gun, it's not clear if Abby or Libby died from gunshot wounds. I still have the pic. They seriously posted photos just so they could retain cool points. Im not sure how he got there, if he drove a car, or if so, where he parked it. Text messages have been circulating online regarding the case, as has speculation about some of the evidence that is being kept under wraps. I dont know if the bridge was within eyeshot of the spot where the girls were found. This had been done on other occasions, at least one other we know of in the 2000s. Were the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Net for years now. July 22, 2017 truthtellersweb. It was dark. Faked to make it look like he could not possibly have committed the crime because he was more devastated than anyone else. I find it very hard to believe either of the girls were targeted by anyone-everything about this case screams random attack by a killer who knew the most likely location to find female victims he could easily overpower. The pre-trial hearing in this case is to be held in January. Liberty German Fbi Those aspects of the crime are the following: We feel that these facts are validated because in 1-3, they were seen by us in the crime scene photos and also by a female search party member at the scene, in 4, they were seen by two separate female search party members who had never talked to each other, and in 5, it was verified by a conversation with the girls guardian herself backed up by a postmortem photo. Do the searchers who found the bodies know if they were posed? Im sure its very interesting to posit your wandering speculation about what if this or maybe something or possibly why, who or what, but at the end of the day, its writing words in the air with water vapor to be blown away with the next wind. Young girls menstrual cycles can be so messed up until possibly a few years later. There are unconfirmed rumors Mr. Xs truck was towed after his wife never came to bring the car keys and that Mr. Xs truck was never searched by police. What time was RL on video eating pizza? Richard Allen, 50, was charged with the murders of Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in Delphi, Ind., in February 2017. On Feb. 13, 2017, 13-year-old Abigail "Abby" Williams and 14-year-old Liberty "Libby" German went to the Monon High Bridge in their home town of Delphi, Ind., while off from school for an unused snow day. On February 13, 2017, Liberty German, age 14, and Abigail Williams, age 13, were hiking on the Delphi Historic Trail near the Monon High Bridge just east of Delphi in Carroll County, Indiana.. 'Libby' German, 14, left, and her 13-year-old best friend Abigail 'Abby' Williams were murdered outside Delphi, Indiana on Feb. 13, 2017. They just accept everyone as long as you say youre straight. There was a helicopter/drone photoset going around in a FB group in the last few days (dont remember which group). We believe this because this is what we were told. I read 1 of them is still in grief counseling for it- so im pretty sure she doesnt wanna talk about it. A .40-caliber unspent round was found less than 2 feet away from one of the girls' bodies, and that unspent round went through a gun that Allen owns, according to the probable cause affidavit. Did he see BG? No one knows if he did this crime or not. According to Business Insider senior reporter and co-founder of The Murder Sheet podcast, ine Cain, Libby had an interaction with Kline on Instagram but thought she was interacting with the person in a photo Kline posted as himself, in an attempt to catfish young girls into sending nude photos. 11) I see his home. But answer me this. I have seen very poor crime scene photos. They wanted the crime scene to appear like something it wasn't, which could hypothetically include posing the bodies. Im so sorry. I guess Im not sure when he graduated. The girls bodies were discovered on his property - just1,400 from his house - and it was revealed over the summer that his alibi for the day of the murder did not line up. What is this guy, another Zodiac? If so, this proves that this crime was planned nearly down to the minute. May have worked at Tyson Foods slaughterhouse in Logansport, Indiana and sister facility in Waterloo, Iowa in 2011-2012. Would love to join the private group. She was being potentially catfished by this person, who, of course, looked nothing like and was nothing like what he portrayed online.. How do you join and can you join as a European? He also allegedly asked his cousin to back up his story before the girls bodies had been found. What are those supposed Delphi Murders leaked text messages about? BG threw toilet cleaner over the girls and every object at the crime scene, thereby eliminating most if not all of the usable DNA. "We will get answers. Where is the balance? I have not been able to determine that from all of these postings. We have almost no information about the cause of death or what the crime scene looked like. If u could see one, u could see the other. Im not saying anymore in an attempt to protect LEs directive. The fact that we were given little to no information about what really happened to Abby and Libby other than they were murdered by BG) from LE says a lot more to me than LE lets on. They dont risk their careers to talk to bloggers. Police found the girls' lifeless bodies a short distance from the bridge the following day, near a trail close to the bridge. We are not sure of Mr. Xs current job, but we think he might be selling wooden signs that he makes by himself and sells. The documents, filed in 2020 and heavily redacted, do not mention the murders of Libby and Abby and he has not been accused of involvement in their deaths. Then that's no "grudge"., That's called pure evil. Children: Two daughters, one ~22, another ~30. Remember how all these Youtubers trashed Leigh Kerr? He is currently serving life in prison for his St. Louis crime. What did Ron Logan have to say about the BG photo? DELPHI - The year 2021 should be filled with cap & gowns, graduation parties, and college choices for Libby German and Abby Williams. Can you explain to me how LE would know that BG filmed his crime if he didnt send that crime footage to the girls phones? The Evansdale crime was committed on 7-13-12, and the Delphi crime was committed on 2-13-17. Were you a member of the private group? Sexual age orientation: Pedohebephilia, nonexclusive, AOA 8-14. DELPHI New chilling details have emerged involving the Delphi deaths investigation. Im nothing at all like how they describe me. People are saying that we have a copy of the gag order that was issued on the towing of the truck at the CPS building. Keep sleuthing, youre on point to what I see. If he didnt have his keys, he could not move his truck. I've seen that a few times. I want to be respectful to someone who is innocent until proven guilty also. Wait so the part about him recording the crime is some search warrant given to someone where the cops wanted to check media files. We also do not know why out of all of the places to search, he happened to pick the exact location where the girls were killed. However, these are all unconfirmed rumors. The gun is a rare collectors item, possibly a .40mm. This has been misrepresented by doubters as the scanner saying to let Mrs. X into the sealed off area because shes bringing Mr. X his keys. I doubt it. Incidentally, we now have a retired homicide detective working as part of our team. And Mr X was involved in a Christian teen club! High Robert, Im not sure about their clothes, but they definitely crossed that creek all right. However, it is still not clear that Mr. X did this on his own or if someone helped him. Instead, their families are holding on to the hope that this is the year their killer is brought to justice. The killer in the unsolved Delphi murders is believed to have moved and staged the victims bodies and taken a souvenir from their 2017 slayings, according to newly-surfaced police documents. We suppose if was listening to a police scanner, he could have known that early, but whats the likelihood of Mr. X listening to a police scanner between 5:30-6:30 PM on the day of the crime?
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